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Protect Fanartist's RIGHTS!!!

and outright Theft of Intellectual Property!

I encourage EVERY ARTIST worth his/her salt to visit this thread on this forum:
http://www.tokyotosho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=747

and protest the theft and reposting of Japanese Fanart.

I've tried PM-ing the Moderators, the owners, I treid being professional, calm and diplomatic and have been asking them respectfully for DAYS to remove/lock this thread.

I was Siting sources like
http://whatiscopyright.org
pointing out intellecutual property and that JUST BECAUSE IT IS ON THE WEB DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO TAKE IT AND POST IT ON FORUMS!


THIS is what I was told:

The thing about this is that I have to try and make the westerners happy whilst not trying to step on the artists' toes at the same time. It's quite difficult.

I won't go into enforcing any laws because this could simply backfire with trolls stating that the torrents posted on Tosho are essentially the same thing (yes, I know it's not but that's me, not them) and seeing how persistant some people can be, could escalate to crap posting if worst comes to worst. Don't you just hate politics Razz? 4chan ( www.4chan.org ) is arguably worse than us anyway seeing as it's literally 2chan and the art portion of these forums aren't exactly booming with activity yet anyway.

Oh yes, about trolls, please ignore them. They get bored if their post doesn't provoke a response.


I responded with: So... it's okay to steal art just so you don't have to listen to the TROLLS bitch?

Um excuse me?

What sort of an excuse is THAT? You've already agreed with me these same 4 posters are all rude, obnoxious, insulting fanboys. SO why the hell would you care about THEM getting upset over posting STOLEN FANART? That does not make sense.

These same posters have run away every legitimate artist on that board by insulting every peice of art posted with horrible flames.

The admin of this site are letting theses flamers rule the board and now with stealing fanart I've had the provierbial straw that broke the camel's back meltdown.

You are robbing fanartists of not only their feedback, but you have taken something without their knowledge and are posting it without giving credit or obtaining permission. While INSULTING artists who post their own hard work.

In my arguments I also pointed out not only legalities, but this website I support:

Online Fanart Protection:
http://www3.to/ofp

SHOWING THEM how the Japanese DO NOT WANT this done to their artwork.

I got basically told to shut and to stop being a whiney bitch as witnessed above. I can take a hint. And now I'm fighting mad.

Now, I'm so mad and I'm resorting to the lynch mob tactics. If reasonable please and begging and legal schmegal won't work... maybe a truck load of livid artist's WILL make the difference.

We fellow Artist's need to band together and show a united front so fucktards like this stop taking our art!

Please voice a protest in the thread and maybe if more people than just me point out that this is WRONG and ILLEGAL that thread will get locked and art will stop being stolen at least on THAT FORUM.

I'm so pissed.

It's time to let artists protect themselves and gave a voice.

Comments

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fablespinner
Aug. 23rd, 2005 11:42 pm (UTC)
Um.. no she didn't, it's still up and running dude. What she did is *NOT* good enough. It's really NOT.
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fablespinner
Aug. 23rd, 2005 11:45 pm (UTC)
Yes, easy to take, It's also ILLEGAL.
and she didn't take care of anything hon. Her weak post at the bottom?

Not good enough. Nothing was taken care of. What about the pictures already UP on the board?
They need to come down immediately.

Sorry, been seeing this shit happen for years, and this board is still small enough to stop this shit.

It's illegal, plain and simple.
Not to mentional morally and ethically wrong on top of it.
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spubba
Aug. 23rd, 2005 11:49 pm (UTC)
Yes, embedding your artwork within Flash files is good; but, someone can decompile your Flash and remove the bitmaps to repost. There are a number of Flash decompilers available for free on the net.

HOWEVER.

If your art is VECTOR and posted in a Flash file, it CANNOT be decompiled into the individual graphics. Someone could repost the original Flash file of course, but your information and links (if you put them in there) will remain on the picture.

Just something to think about.
fablespinner
Aug. 24th, 2005 12:04 am (UTC)
And flash makes me cry.
spubba
Aug. 24th, 2005 12:11 am (UTC)
I am going to sit you down with it one of these days, though. Because if you can learn Poser, you can definitely learn how to draw something in Flash. Done right, art in Flash is almost theft-proof. *wink*
revelininsanity
Aug. 24th, 2005 12:20 am (UTC)
Word type thingy! Right up there! Nice of you to be standing up for the artist types.

I am so glad that I write and draw in Elfquest. At least the community there is small enough that it doesn't matter where you get it from, everyone knows whose crap is whose.

Yes, I'm lj-surfing.

Just out of curiousity, areyou the same Fablespinner who wrote the Bartlick Boys?
fablespinner
Aug. 24th, 2005 01:54 am (UTC)
THat would be me. I think I'm the ONLY fablespinner on the net, cause that name is never taken on forums and things. :PPPPP

^_^
revelininsanity
Aug. 24th, 2005 02:52 am (UTC)
Oh.

um...

I'm not going to be all like naggy, and stuff, because yay! Out of fandom, and that's good, but I thought your stuff was/is/will always be some of the best out there. And I love it.

And you know, happy fan girl stuff...

Um...

I'm gonna hide, before I get anymore pathetic.
fablespinner
Aug. 24th, 2005 03:03 am (UTC)
LOL, thanks.

^_^

<3
gynocrat_rex
Aug. 25th, 2005 01:46 pm (UTC)
Something you might find interesting, it happens in both countries. We had to really complain to get one Japan site to remove our Gungrave/Trigun work.

Now we post this:


↑全ての画像/文章の無断複製・転載をお断りしています。

Just in case they forget we have rights too.


gynocrat_rex
Aug. 25th, 2005 01:47 pm (UTC)
The URL might help... ^_^'

http://www.rightsforartists.com/
fablespinner
Aug. 25th, 2005 04:44 pm (UTC)
People just don't stop to THINK
It's such a pet peeve of mine.
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