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On mindless anonymous hatred in general...

Hey Pond don't feel bad I got blasted too on that thing we made it mommy people hate us! Ashura, Orla and I and Radio Drama blues Oh My...

WHATEVER... I love the anonymous wanking of me and LORENA here.(Since when are we interchangeable people?)

In my own defense... I am a writer for my own enjoyment, my Education, in all things other than MUSIC, is High School level ONLY, and I've been OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL for fifteen years, and where my English and Grammar are concerned, my memory perhaps cannot remember every lesson I learned, but I DO try. This does not make me evil incarnate. This makes me average Joe Schmoe.

SO Yes, I make a BUTT LOAD of mistakes. I NEVER said I didn't. I have no beta readers, if I don't catch it -- it don't get caught. I wrote my stories because I wanted to, I didn't write them for you. I wrote them for ME.

I always thought my characterizations were decent, but after all they are MY PERCEPTIONS, I never expected everyone to agree with me, I am expressing my opinion in my stories, I'm allowed to do that, you are allowed to read or NOT, your choice. I'm not forcing anyone to read my stories or look at my pictures. I didn't staple you to a chair and force you to read and what tickles me most? I love the "she does this in ALL her fics" which tells me you read ALL my fics... if you hated them so very much why did you read beyond the first paragraph of the first story that you hated so very much? Anyone care to explain that one to me?

As for my EGO problems, I'm just tired of this accusation. I just don't see it but... FINE I am bitch queen from hell to you. I'm really sorry if I fly off the handle at something THAT HURTS MY FEELINGS AND I DEFEND MYSELF I'm FUCKING HUMAN WITH EMOTIONS.

I think people confuse EGO with PRIDE... I DO have a fucking backbone where I won't roll over and allow someone to fuck me up the ass with a spike with no lube without standing up for myself and my beliefs.

There is a difference. I am not a passive, demure, lay-about by any means.... I have PRIDE in myself I am not an egomaniac and those two things are not interchangeable.

I have never said I am TEH BEST EVAR!!!1111 and do not believe it in the slightest. I have room to improve, lots and lots and LOTS of room to improve. And ANYONE who thinks different are just kidding themselves. There is no such thing as perfection, there is ALWAYS someone BETTER THAN YOU.

If you got a problem with me, have the GUTS to say it to my face, not make some anonymous post in a community somewhere "safe" you bloody cowards.

You're quick to throw some HARSH words and accusations of people I admire and of myself, shredding people for the sake of shredding people is LOW, Much lower than the "bad fics crime" bull shit you're ranting about... and none of you have the BALLS to keep your NAME on what evil venom you spit.

You're the people with problems, not us.

Here's your chance, step up to the plate, you want to shred me GO FOR IT RIGHT HERE, comments are on.

You want to rip me apart go for it, just have the fucking GUTS to leave your name on it, and accept rebuttal like a real human being.


P.S... DAMN LJ!! Post it ONCE, not 8 million times! Sorry for the explosion of posts, I hit "post entry" only once I swear!

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urbandruid
Jul. 10th, 2004 09:25 pm (UTC)
*hugs* You know, D, these people really amaze me. They have nothing better to do with their time than rant about how everyone else sucks, cannot write fic, and should go stick their heads in an oven. And they're not even picking on people who are really BAD!

You're not perfect; neither am I. We can all always improve. But I have read some BAD fic in my time, simply dreadful, but this is just unreal. I loved how their big beef with TTDSDG was the original characters. Gah. What part of "if you don't like it, don't read it" is too complicated for these people?

You rock, BTW. You really do.

PS: sorry if this shows up like eight times. LJ hates me.
ashkitty
Jul. 10th, 2004 09:44 pm (UTC)
'Amaze' would imply I was in some way impressed...they just make me shake my head and think, wow, get a life, dude. ;)

D, you're having fun doing your thing, and that's what's important. And you've gotten so much better over the years I've known you that it's just wow amazing.

I am pretty sure most of the people in that are just frustrated that other people get more attention than they do.
babspace
Jul. 10th, 2004 10:20 pm (UTC)
*rolls eyes*

Pathetic little losers! I'd be willing to be at least one of those jerk wads has written something so bad it would burn your eyes just to view it, and if you tried to offer constructive criticism they'd run crying, "You big meanie!"

Personally, considering how bad the US educational system has become, I think anyone 10 or more years my junior would have to have ALOT of balls (to make up for the lack of brains) to criticise my spelling and grammar. Ego? Maybe. But I feel I earned it, having to give up a sizable chunk of my creativity in exchange for such knowledge being pounded into my brain.

F*ck the little devo-ed twits and their "make me feel good" schooling!!
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fablespinner
Jul. 10th, 2004 10:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah, boneheads. I'm not really bent out of shape, I just love the double standard.

It's not okay for me to write and be honest and be myself, but it IS alright to totally besmirch my character in a public forum anonymously?

They'd better be glad I'm NOT their mother.

I would REMOVE internet access permanently until they learned how to behave like a person and be up front and honest.

Now call me a bitch. I am.

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koo
Jul. 10th, 2004 10:32 pm (UTC)
Ppl like that just like to stir the shit pot. They take the fun out of writing.

Your damn right to be so mad! They are just doing it to be assholes. I'm sorry this has happened to you and good for you to stick up for your self!
fablespinner
Jul. 10th, 2004 10:59 pm (UTC)
Yup, the world is FULL of sad little shit stirrers.

I can never understand the mentality.

not to mention the community to to bash specific FICS, not the authors.

I do not see a post ANYWHERE that is fic specific. they are just trashing the author's personally.

Some of them are good friends and it pisses me off, if you don't KNOW the REAL PERSON, how dare you make snap judgements about their character?

I met (thanks to conventions) several of the author's being shredded in real life, face to face. I sat down, talked with them, laughed with them and made great friends.

You cannot gauge a person off stories and livejournals, it's impossible. YOu can get an idea, but boy was I wrong about a few people until I met them in person.

I've not met one person face to face off mailing lists or journals, or websites at conventions I didn't GENUINELY like.

Well I lie, I met 2 but I didn't like the on-line persona either and the face to face cemented it, but I didn't hate them, we just didn't see eye to eye, and not everyone DOES.

These sites are fucking pointless excuses to be assholes in public.
christinev
Jul. 10th, 2004 10:44 pm (UTC)
You know what....fuck them. Period. If they could do better....let em try, nuff said. I also take any slams against the radio drama PERSONALLY, even though I didn't have a major hand in it.....I'd like to see THEM pull that one off!!! Fucking simpletons.....;P *BIG HUGS!!!!!*
fablespinner
Jul. 10th, 2004 11:06 pm (UTC)
Man I'm getting ROASTED on the second one... can any tell me, since obviously I MUST do this, she says so... here on this PUBLIC POST... have I ever done what I'm being accused of in that second thread?

NO

I don't AIM chat with anyone, not EVEN my friends.
The only time I used AIM was during RAW airings so I could harrass the DJ's

I lock only PERSONAL posts about my LIFE and even then most of the time, I leave it public anyway...

sheesh.

Call me Satan and roast me for dinner.

These people have ISSUES and STILL refuse to grow balls and leave a name for a rebuttal.

C O W A R D S
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ppw0
Jul. 10th, 2004 11:41 pm (UTC)
I didn't follow the links, I think I'd throw up if I did from how harsh they sound from people's lj's.

/SO Yes, I make a BUTT LOAD of mistakes. I NEVER said I didn't. I have no beta readers, if I don't catch it -- it don't get caught. I wrote my stories because I wanted to, I didn't write them for you. I wrote them for ME./

I agree with you there. There is no mature author out there that doesn't make a mistake, and most of the best author's know its about writing for themselves. Its sad when readers start to believe that the writers are sharing their stories just for them. Out of all the fandom's I've roamed about in this is the reoccuring theme in all of them. The reader's begin to believe that the story is for them.

It seems to me that those people need to hop off the computer and take a look at the world around them and look to improving themselves. Anyone that can be so harsh towards people they do not know needs a reality check.

I'm glad your defending yourself, and I think that many of the authors posted need to band together and make one massive response to those who are whining in general. Once they obtain their master's in english/liturature and are constructively criticising people rather than serving pointless flames, then they can talk.

kabuki_chan
Jul. 10th, 2004 11:55 pm (UTC)
I came across the *bleep* comunity because a friend of mine has also problems with this idiots. And I just freaked out.
It's one thing to dislike stuff. Fuck, there's no need to love every single artwork or believe every fanfic is a masterpiece - there are tons of shit out there. But if you think so, you really should have the guts to state your oppionion, means doing so with your name.
Argh - that's what makes me so mad...

Anyways, there are so many decent people out there who either just keep their mouth shut or say what they mean.
And I know how much this shit hurts. But count on the decent people and tell the rest to fuck off.
mortegami
Jul. 11th, 2004 01:57 am (UTC)
Since there are haters out there....
Allow me to be one of the multitude of praisers. True, I've not given feedback to you on each story of yours that I've read (and you CAN smack me up the head for that, but with how many of your stories I HAVE read, I didn't want to jam up your inbox with my comments and praises), I have given positive feedback on at least one or two stories, usually the multi-chaptered ones.

I did follow those links and was absolutely flabbergasted by the audacity of the anonymous posters. Personally, from my outside-not-knowing-what-was-going-on-in-D's-head-at-time-of-writing, I thought your Quatres to be strong. True, he was a bit frail/fragil-ish, but he was never weak, at least not in spirit.

....I'm sure I've already said this before, but I worship your writing style. Be it Gundam Wing fanfiction, Original Works, or any other fandom, you write as well as you draw. I yearn for a fraction of your drawing talent, if not your writing talent as well (My Gundam Fanfiction kinda sucks to my own self ;;shrugs;; but I'm my worst critic).

Anyhow, I want you to know that I support you fully!
irishangels
Jul. 11th, 2004 02:01 am (UTC)
I really don't get some of these online people. Even though my opinion doesn't really matter, I just have to mention that I really like your stuff and I find it entertaining to read. I like your characters and I like the plots in your stories. I might be a bit biased since i've met you and think your a cool person but, if I had never met you I still wouldn't write some of the crap i've seen people say. Doesn't anyone teach manners or respect anymore or did I miss the memo that said we can treat people like crap just because it's the internet. And about the grammar, BFD your stuff is damn good and if there is a mistake it's small and has like zero affect on your story. Oh well I hope you don't let it bother you much. I guess some people are just dumb.
~Megan
pmdorian
Jul. 11th, 2004 04:27 am (UTC)
Those people are fucking morons and the way they talk is disgusting and dispicable. Everyone has an opinion whether a fic is good or bad, but that doesn't give them any right to bash the author. Nobody twisted their arm to make them read it so stop your damn bitching! Some people just aren't happy unless they are degrading someone. Unfortunately, those people didn't have a chance to meet you in person because if they did, they would see what a sweetheart you are ^____^
khiarhu
Jul. 11th, 2004 05:24 am (UTC)
Tch...
....I cannot believe those freaking punks. Hi D, you dont know me from eve, but I was on the bishart ML for a while.

I will totally admit that your ficcage isn't my cup of tea - that's my thing, and I can say that - you dont write for me. I went and read over some of the stuff those guys were saying...and you know, it really HAS degenerated. It's one thing to whip out your opinions on someone's work - that's fine; but to defame someone's character - that's slander. That's totally sueable, sadly, none of them are ballsy enough to give their "names" or anything.

Cowards.

I give you my support D.
fablespinner
Jul. 11th, 2004 05:25 am (UTC)
Re: Tch...
thanks.

There were a few nice things said, I'm not bummed or anything.

*hugs*
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haydenthorne
Jul. 11th, 2004 05:27 am (UTC)
You know, D, some people will never be happy unless they're unhappy.

I got the easy wank (unless a new thread just popped up somewhere with my name on it, but I've seen enough of the "discussions" to know that those who bash are way below my contempt) and am horrified to see you, Sharon, and other people who mind their own business get bludgeoned by anonymous posters. I'm so sorry that you have to go through this. Again.

It only convinces me all the more that what little faith I had left in the fandom is gone and for good.
fablespinner
Jul. 11th, 2004 05:33 am (UTC)
I know I saw You, Sharon, Blue_Soaring, Jade, Kracken, Talya Fyredancer and Ponderosa get roasted.

Those were just the names I recognized.

And I'm like WTF, I've met them all in person (Save Talya never met her in person) and none of those nasty comments were even remotely TRUE.

Since when is someone's writing a 100% reflection of the PERSON they are?

I JUST

DO

NOT

GET IT!

I'll stick with my originals I like them much more. I've not touched fandom in almost 2 years now, with a brief moment in GB which I ran from as Quickly as I joined.

Same shit different fandom sucks.

I'll just do my own thing and be HAPPY.

Live journal is more than enough exposure for me thanks.

I'm not posting anywhere but here, DeviantArt, and my own webspace and plan on keeping it that way.

I do not post on public places anymore, BECAUSE these people twist everything I say into some drama queen egotistical rant, and I'm not that way, so I just shut up and stop fueling the bad reputation.

Let them come here to my personal arena and raise hell all they want.

At least the people I care about most are also on LJ and the only opinions I give a shit about are my friend's anyway.

^^
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beechan2
Jul. 11th, 2004 08:35 am (UTC)
People like that are plain foolish insensative freaks. Plain and simple. They get their VERY odd kicks out of bashing people they DON'T EVEN KNOW and think they are the coolest lil shits because of. And YET, I bet you ANYTHING, that if they ever met you, Pond, or any of the others that they bash on, they'd be magically stupified. Do they know you personally? NO! Then they need to sew their little traps shut and find something constructive to do with their lives.

And as far as the "why do they go past the first sentence if they hate your works so much" part...

its like Howard Stern said *it was sometime around April, like a day before April Fools, when he pulled that really really mean joke and made us all think the Howard Stern Show was really canceled ;_;*. He said he gets those pathetic critisers who bash on him aaaaalll the time. They hate his stuff soooooo much, BUT they know just about EVERYSINGLE ONE of his shows and jokes and his movie inside and out.

and he confront them asking WHY if they hate it all so much, do they continue to listen... and they say... because we have to know you're going to say next.

So think of it. They hate something soooooo much and yet... they know more about something than even the most hardcore fans do.. so deep down inside, they must REALLY LOVE IT! YEAH!! X3!

they'll get theirs someday..

hmm.. I'm really half tempted to hope on over there and read it all for myself.

*snuggles you and goes all fangirl on youuuuuuu* Me wurv's D! X3!

~~Bee

sharona1x2
Jul. 11th, 2004 10:09 am (UTC)
I was hurt at first, but now I think it's just stupid and petty. And you know what's the saddest part? I'll bet a lot of the people behind it haven't been in junior high school for years. It's sad that they have to show they've never progressed beyond that level.
toebear
Jul. 11th, 2004 03:29 pm (UTC)
*Huggles to D-sama*
You so did not MS Quatre. I loved your versions of him and Trowa. And yes, you have errors in youf fics, but you know what. They don't stand out as horribly as other people's do.

And as for your art work, I like it. And I know since you post it online, you have to like it. Or else it wouldn't be up there. I wouldn't take anything those jerks say to heart dear. For the most part people who leave anonymous posts have not the courage to post anything themselves. Or if they do post, it's usually peices of crap that they got their 4 year olds to draw for them so that they could give the kid an ego boost.

*Goes back to your site to see if there's any new fics she hasn't read in the last 24 hours instead of working on her own projects.*
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