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Original Project Questions

Since I *REALLY* want to work on something for me for a change and these Characters (Cor and Ahna) are becoming annoying little voices in my head.... ><__><

I have some Questions.

Now my BAD POINTS when it comes to drawing Manga

1.) I SUCK MONKEY BALLS when it comes to scenery, animals, chairs, homes, I mean I am really, really, MASSIVELY BAD at all the "extras" that *NEED* to be in manga.

2.) I get extremely "Wordy" in dialogue. I write great dialogue (It's my strong point in writing) I just write too MUCH for Manga purposes. It could take me 30 drawn pages to get through a scene over dinner. Unless the entire page were dialogue bubbles. *NOT GOOD*


So therein lies my dilemma for actually starting this project.

(Apart from the fact Manga is a very labor intensive process ESPECIALLY when you are doing it alone, sketch, rough, tone, story etc...)

UNLESS I do this as more of a heavily illustrated Novel. Like a Picture to illustrate key points every few pages.

But I don't think that's ever been done before (I've seen books with one picture per CHAPTER, but none every few pages) and I don't know if that sort of format would even WORK...

Does anyone else here have an opinion/suggestions on this.

I'm just LOST right now creatively, and I want to do something of this nature but the sheer daunting prospects of tackling such a HUGE undertaking alone frankly scares the living CRAP out of me.

Input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

EDIT

And a HAPPY fangirl SQUEE!
This is what I got in the mail today
It was my prize for winning the Tsukimono Otoshi Fanart Contest
It's Fucking gorgeous! It has a Vinyl cover! I guess to keep DROOL from ruining it!
Some very, very NICE art, Oh yeah.

There's one in here of Dark and Krad that is so HOT it's smokin'! (in my opinion, I find this stuff really spiffy! Innuendo me BABY!)
No yaoi fodder my ASS! *grin*

SEE! (Happy Leer) We knew Krad had that wierd-ass Long Bang in front for a reason!

Comments

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mogumogu
Sep. 13th, 2003 05:14 am (UTC)
Actually, I think a heavily-illustrated novel would work (it would defintitely be good for people who flilp through novels in bookstores as if there were pictures in them).

But, if you really wanna do manga, I suggest you build a team! You know, people to work with backgrounds and stuff and to help with layout and such. They'd help yas organize your dialogue and such.
babspace
Sep. 13th, 2003 06:35 am (UTC)
I vote for the illustrated novel. I think it's a very cool idea. If it's never been done before, well then you can be the first!

Babs
nemkess
Sep. 13th, 2003 08:09 am (UTC)
I'd read any illistrated novel that you did, D... ^_^

If you ever need help with buildings and such, I did study architect briefly (before I decided there was too much math involved ^_^;;) and with a little time and effort I can draw decent buildings. And horses! ^_^;;;

Suck and trees, flowers, etc...
just_ruth
Sep. 13th, 2003 08:15 am (UTC)
Ever see the old Hal Foster "Prince Valiant" books? He gets into all sorts of literary and historical stuff and, when collected together, it's a novel with a picture on every single page. If you're having trouble with backgrounds - talk to Rick, he's great at photo manipulations. Take a photo of your background and let him work the magic.
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windsorblue
Sep. 13th, 2003 09:50 am (UTC)
I like the idea of an illustrated novel, too. You could kick off a whole new genre, D! ^_^
urylia
Sep. 13th, 2003 10:51 am (UTC)
i think the illustrated novel is a good idea! =)

btw, D, i haven't seen one of your pic in a while...and after seeing that one above, i must say, i love your artwork, and i see improvement (not that you weren't good before) from the last time i saw one of your pics!

-Stephanie
ladyorla
Sep. 13th, 2003 04:20 pm (UTC)
Most of the doujinshi I have keep the interior scenes & furniture very, very simple. I.e. Just a few lines to indicate walls and doors. so with a ruler and a sense of perspective you can actually put together enough for readers to know where the characters are. And if something emotional is happening often there isn't anything behind the characters.

As for scenery, in Japan I believe alot of doujinshi-ka's use transfers for things like city shots, moonlit skies, stars, flowers... etc. I don't know if you can get transfers in the US though.

Animals... eh, they suck to draw. Perhaps get a children's book of drawing animals? That's probably the best suggestion. ^^
mogumogu
Sep. 13th, 2003 05:37 pm (UTC)
It just hit me about the scenery and animals:

Artists always keep lots of magazines and such for reference. There are books of poses and animals in those poses...

Also, I remember seing in one of the How to Draw Manga books that artists often trace over a photograph when doing backgrounds (that's why some look too real to be thought up).
fablespinner
Sep. 13th, 2003 07:31 pm (UTC)
Okay since this a recurring suggestion from people who are not on my bishart list... I *HAVE* all these reference materials

I have USED them

My *TALENT* in this area is lacking, I'm not short on the tools, just the aptitude to USE THEM.

and Photos used against an illustrated foreground look absolutely AWFUL.

and for this sort of war ravaged landscape there is going to be precious little photos to begin with.
mogumogu
Sep. 14th, 2003 04:22 am (UTC)
Meep! Sorry!

'was trying to be helpful...

Umm... you could probably find plenny of reference pics for war ravaged landscapes in National Geographic magazines.

Not to trace! Just for help, you know?
fablespinner
Sep. 14th, 2003 04:35 am (UTC)
No... I KNOW, believe me I have a rather extensive reference library here at home on all sorts of bizarre things.

Trying to explain that drawing "still life" is not my long suit isn't seeimg to work here.

Really... STILL LIFE ANYTHING, if it's not Humanoid, it's going to give me perpetual FITS.

Beyond the occasional FLOWER, Rock and Tree I'm pretty hopeless.

I have YEARS of practice ahead of me in that area.

*THAT'S* What I was trying to say/ask... I wasn't asking for help in HOW TO DRAW IT... and lets not get into drawing it consistently panel to panel... believe me the art side of things I have under control, or rather I know my own shortcomings intimately and know I need some serious work on these areas, and I know how and where to get what I need when it comes to that side of things.... I was just listing those as "FACTS I NEED TO WORK ON"... I know HOW to do it already. Skill in doing it is QUITE another matter entirely.

I just wanted opinions on "Serial Novelized Illustration" vs. "Traditional Manga" layouts.

windtear
Sep. 14th, 2003 09:54 pm (UTC)
Illustrated novels are REALLY big right now.

Admittedly I'm a Pratchett fan, but go check out 'The Last Hero' and 'Eric' (both of which have several little plot details hidden in the illustrations that really explain certain throwaway lines like nothing else).

One that comes to mind is in 'The Last Hero', with the bard. He's barely there in the narrative, but the way he grows and changes through the illustrations... and it's echoed in the narrative - it's just beautiful.
fablespinner
Sep. 15th, 2003 10:12 pm (UTC)
Oh I'll have to check into those!

Thanks!!!

^_^
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