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Okay, this is not racist RANT damn it, it's just LOGICAL 1 + 1 = 2 sort of RANT and it drives me CRAZY.

There comes a time when adding a TOKEN person of Ethnicity into a movie or tv show is just WRONG and INAPPROPRIATE!. There *ARE* places it does not work. Where you can no longer suspend disbelief because of glaring geographical and historical errors being made....

For an example to show how RIDICULOUS this is...

Just like you would not stick a token WHITE GUY into a movie that is supposed to take place in a ZULU TRIBE as a TRIBES MAN (As a visiting scientist OKAY, that would work, that is BELIEVABLE! But not a TRIBESMAN who's mother is Black woman, who's father is black man and were supposed to pretend we don't notice he's WHITE? This happens ALL THE TIME in reverse and were supposed to ignore it because it's "politically correct" to cast at least ONE token ethnic actor in a role!)

No, it's just ILLOGICAL DAMN IT!

You TV and MOVIE type directors and writers do this all the time with ethnic people and it drive me fucking crazy. I'm all for equality but please write parts for ethnic actors damn it! MAKE IT AT LEAST BELIEVABLE!!!!

What caused this rant tonight? I'm just FLIPPING through the channels a KING ARTHUR type TV show was on... Into the scene Walks in a woman obviously mixed race (half black and half Indian) (Asian not Native American)... she was a main Character named "Gwen"...

Wait... WUT? GWEN? FUCKING GWEN? Let's forget that Africans and Indians did not LIVE in Wales/England in approx. 900 AD... She certainly, even if they DID live there, her name would NOT BE GWEN!!!!

I'd have believed her character insertion (Maybe a BIG , MAYBE) has she been dressed in a Sari.. MAYBE. Since very few (if ANY) people from India or Africa LIVED IN "CAMELOT" (Which is either in Wales or England according to the "legend" and which one you subscribe to.)

But my POINT is, Please to be stopping these TOKEN ETHNIC characters unless you make them at least PLAUSIBLE in the story. PLEASE!!!

You would not stick a White Guy in the middle of Africa and name him Nubuku the Zulu King. Please stop putting ethinc characters into historical period movies into roles they would NOT HAVE HAD during the era. I'd have believed her role had you named her say PADME and had her dressed in clothes appropriate for her ethnicity and had her speaking "English" with an Indian accent.

No, she was speaking in a BRITISH ACCENT and her name was GWEN.

*facepalm*

STOP, JUST STOP!

Oh and another BEEF. WOMEN did not run around in chain mail, nor did they swing broad swords around. You got the OCCASIONAL bad ass chick in DARK AGES history, Bodicea for one of that era.

But were talking 1 in 10,000 women in that era so please, stop making Guinevere, Maid Marion, etc... traditional females suddenly turn into great warriors. It was so UNCOMMON. Please at least try to stay historically accurate!!!

Stop putting ethinic token chracters into settings they do not belong in and stop bowing to feminists! Seriously. I'm proud to be a MODERN WOMAN, but I also realize that the traditional roles females played 1200 years ago were VASTLY different.

Mmmmm'Kay?

Thank you!

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dirty_baka
May. 15th, 2010 09:33 am (UTC)
I was watching something the other day that had a random whiteguy made to look like a Native American in the middle of LA protesting soemthing. Whitest Indian guy ever.


O yea. D-wars.

that was a pretty shitty movie all around.
ashkitty
May. 15th, 2010 10:50 am (UTC)
LOL. That's Merlin. Honestly the blind casting is the least of the worries when it comes to historical inaccuracy, so I'm glad they went the PC route--they seem to have no problem combining 7th century geography (Mercia and Northumbria exist with our 'British style' Albion'), 13th century costumage (at least, the costumes they didn't take from a close-out of a Halloween shop), 11th century characters (Geoffrey of Monmouth is the court geneaologist?) Britain is called Albion and filmed in France. There is no church, except for the old pagans who are all witches (but it is really kind of weird to not replace it with anything, and the medieval church was such a catalyst for everything). Arthur has the Sutton Hoo helmet hanging around in his 13th-century-French bedroom.

So my point is, there is no point trying to be plausible or authentic in 'Merlin', because it is really just a ridiculous fun romp about people swinging swords around and the only thing it takes great care with is to be sure it does not happen in the actual real-world past. ;)

I also like the shieldmaidens. Am not really all that concerned with historically accurate if there is someone I can pretend to be. :)
fablespinner
May. 16th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)
I had no idea the name of the show, I saw all of maybe 5 minutes of it before I continued surfing.

*facepalms harder*

and yeah, that *WAS* the Dark Ages. There needs to be heavy Church um everywhere. O_o
ashkitty
May. 16th, 2010 10:26 am (UTC)
Yeah, it's actually a really fun show, but not even REMOTELY historically or linguistically accurate. I get to watch it for research, though. My life is awesome. ;)
thundercrap
May. 15th, 2010 10:58 am (UTC)
It's just another symptom of that modern day crap where apparently adding a female character who's "strong" and accessible by being a vaginaed version of her male counterpart makes her accessible. Except, you now, being accurate.

A lot of those women would be considered "underage" by modern standards, too.
koo
May. 15th, 2010 12:22 pm (UTC)
Amen to that!

Fuck I love your posts! This is so damn true!
fablespinner
May. 16th, 2010 04:11 am (UTC)
Glad I can entertain! :)
ranuel
May. 15th, 2010 05:01 pm (UTC)
The combination of the weird genetics blind casting for things like this with the casting of whites in makeup to play specifically ethnic roles really makes me wonder if the casting directors are doing way to many heavy drugs on the weekends.

There is some evidence that people could travel around more than has been thought in the past but a Celtic princess is still gonna be CELTIC. If you absolutely want to cast your girlfriend the stunning Indian chick make up a new part for her and a half-assed excuse for her being there.

The woman warrior thing that ticked me off the most was in Lord of the Rings. They made Arwen, the delicate court lady, a Xena clone then gave Eowen, the seriously kick butt woman warrior who was actually cannon, lots of scenes of mooning around in flowing dresses.
fablespinner
May. 16th, 2010 04:13 am (UTC)
Whites in make up piss me off equally. JUST CAST an ETHNIC person for the role already!

And yes, at the MOST Gwen might have had some French (Gall) blood in her in those days if we're talking Celtic Princesses and she was Guinevere.

And yes, Eowen needed more balls.
forloveofsnape
May. 16th, 2010 01:53 am (UTC)
*cracks up* She's Guinevere, hon. Gwen's a nickname. After making the future Queen a servant, making her ethnic was the least of their worries. :) That show is so full of historical wackiness that you just have to laugh and enjoy it as is.
fablespinner
May. 16th, 2010 04:10 am (UTC)
Seeing as I've never seen a single episide (I was channel surfing) it was just ... WTF-ery. All I heard was "Gwen" and I went, no, it couldn't be... So that was Guinevere? Good lord, that makes it even worse.

Next are they going to cast a person who has severe dwarfism as a Pendragon?

How can anyone watch that show?

forloveofsnape
May. 17th, 2010 01:23 am (UTC)
It's a fun show to watch at the end of the day and just enjoy. Prince Arthur is hot as hell. Really...hot...as...hell. :)

However, while I try to (and can usually) dismiss most of the WTFery, as you say, I HATE what they did to Guinevere. The whole thing is "when they were young" - they made Morgana le Fay something like Arthur's foster sister, the king's ward. And they made Guinevere her MAID. The way you hate random ethnic casting, I hate rewriting history/legend whatever for a "class" forbidden love. *rolls eyes* The idea that the Prince/future King would marry a servant is beyond insane. Also, yes, she's black/etc. Random black knights pop up too.

I actually find the acting to be pretty good and the plots inventive, but there's just no excuse for the casting, you're right.
fablespinner
May. 17th, 2010 02:51 am (UTC)
The way everyone is describing this show, it sound like BAD AU fanfic of a legend done in film...

I think I'll avoid the show, hot arthur or no hot Kingy.
koyasuslave
May. 18th, 2010 05:48 am (UTC)
I actually like the show. It's just a different take on a legend. Merlin (the character) is just starting to learn how to use his magic and helps Author learn how to be a good King, in a very comical way. Yeah somethings seem a bit far fetched....ok a lot, but it's a really good show and everybody has British accents since BBC was the network that created it. Syfy had no hand in it what so ever.
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